Using Comet With PHP

Using comet with PHP?

Agreeing/expanding what has already been said, I don't think FastCGI will solve the problem.

Apache

Each request into Apache will use one worker thread until the request completes, which may be a long time for COMET requests.

This article on Ajaxian mentions using COMET on Apache, and that it is difficult. The problem isn't specific to PHP, and applies to any back-end CGI module you may want to use on Apache.

The suggested solution was to use the 'event' MPM module which changes the way requests are dispatched to worker threads.

This MPM tries to fix
the 'keep alive problem' in HTTP.
After a client completes the first
request, the client can keep the
connection open, and send further
requests using the same socket. This
can save signifigant overhead in
creating TCP connections. However,
Apache traditionally keeps an entire
child process/thread waiting for data
from the client, which brings its own
disadvantages. To solve this problem,
this MPM uses a dedicated thread to
handle both the Listening sockets, and
all sockets that are in a Keep Alive
state.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work either, because it will only 'snooze' after a request is complete, waiting for a new request from the client.

PHP

Now, considering the other side of the problem, even if you resolve the issue with holding up one thread per comet request, you will still need one PHP thread per request - this is why FastCGI won't help.

You need something like Continuations which allow the comet requests to be resumed when the event they are triggered by is observed. AFAIK, this isn't something that's possible in PHP. I've only seen it in Java - see the Apache Tomcat server.

Edit:

There's an article here about using a load balancer (HAProxy) to allow you to run both an apache server and a comet-enabled server (e.g. jetty, tomcat for Java) on port 80 of the same server.

Comet & PHP: How to use Comet with a PHP Chat System?

You may want to look at WebChat2 This project uses comet, AJAX, and a custom HTTP server to communicate with IRC via sockets.

how does comet work with php?

use this link:

http://www.zeitoun.net/articles/comet_and_php/start

That is the best tutorial i could found, and takes 1 min to try;

in short:

( image from that tutorial )

index, can be html or php, creates a request, which php doesnt answer until there is data to send back, with chat, when someone sends you a message.

If you have many users chatting, i recommend using a java chat app

otherwise your server will load up with running php engines ( each unanswered request keeps a php engine alive, which is server capacity ).

http://streamhub.blogspot.com/2009/07/tutorial-building-comet-chat.html

this should help you out with that, but you do need java hosting :)

have fun

edit:

just read the other server part; sending requests to your own server can get messed because the timeout function may not work well, so the server crashes, an independant server timeouts the connection after a certain amount of time, no matter what.

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